I hope they go out of business and leave the dishonesty to our opponents. You would answer your own question if you noticed my opening remark: Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. RRA IS THE ONLY COMPANY THAT CAN MAKE A RELIABLE AR-10. If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. Its not difficult. Both companies are stalwart defenders of 2A rights and arent in the habit of heavily funding Bloomberg puppet, anti gun politicians, as has been discovered of both SA and RRA. I think that if gun owners boycotted every company into oblivion that had to compromise at some point there wouldnt be any gun manufacturers around. With an MSRP of $860, it is a capable rifle at great price point. The Springfield name is going to carry an odor, no matter how good a particular firearm might be. They hate this stuff because opponents can use it. After asking you if youd like to sign up for a membership, and cc insurance. NOW all I can think is SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! After the next civil war, we wont allow another one. Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. If you are willing to do 9mm, check out an Honor Guard. The idea being that this bill is so toxic that Senators passing it or the Governor signing it will be drawn into a wide-ranging financial and criminal probe. Most dont buy a gun thinking about selling it down the road, bit it happens. Never buying anything from springfield ever again and my one xdm is up for sale as of yesterdayI dont even want it in my safe. Your Price: $744.13. Initially I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but after I thought about Reeses statement, and now that Ive seen Larsons statement, I would have liked to see hecklers run Springfields employees right out of Atlanta. thats what Illinois is hoping for stand our ground, Springfield got me right in my Grip Zone with this move, bu-bye SA. But I wont EVER support a company who actively supports an infringement of any kind. Ben Franklin once said, If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 If truth about guns knows whats good for them, theyll be taking this story down and apologizing publicly for spreading untrue assumptions. Do they somehow know the licensing scheme is going to be corrupt or extremely expensive? What should be boycotted is this garbage blog. After the event I hadnt seen a shipping notification. Peoplr lose jobs, get divorced, buy better guns and so on. THEY MUST PARISH AND EVERYONE WHO DOESNT BACK ME IM GONNA CURSE AT AND BE MEAN TO!!! Screw CTD. If youve already implemented them, great. You are both dead to me now. Its like saying Saturn is really, really big, and huge, too! Oh, hell no, he told me. ), I DO have a choice with firearms. Illinois acts like an evil, independant country when it comes to our Second Amendment rights, ignoring law and constantly jockeying for ways to squelch our right of self-protection through our right to bear arms. theyre NOT trapped in Illinois,they can relocate,same as other gun companies have done. You write as though weve been asleep. Ive never had an issue with CTD in a decade. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28141995/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/illinois-has-long-legacy-public-corruption/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_state_and_local_politicians_convicted_of_crimes. If you dont like their price dont buy. If theres a silver lining here, this law should be shot down by the courts. Larson first said Rock River Arms had broken ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturing Association which is only a four member board. As a collector of modern handguns, I was very interested in Springfields new XD-E and was hoping to find one as soon as they became available until all of this political posturing took place in Illinois (I live in neighboring Indiana). You shouldve made that decision because it is a piece of garbage, not because of this hysterical article. Id bet a bunch of employees would jump at the chance go move from IL to TN or MO or TX. Ive heard of them canceling orders. Im a New Yorker. Especially ones outside Chiraq. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Never, ever. RRA donated money as well I think they knew about stuff going on, but want to pretend they did not. Heres a basic synopsis of the original company; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history. I had the EMP4 Contour and a TRP on my 2017 list. Is there a list somewhere? I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. Well I will see if I can make a good trade for STI, Para, or a cz had a cz 85 combat one time and traded it, was a real good gun in a 9 mm.Things like this is realy bad just cant trust anyone anymore. In fairness, Sprin gfield Arm ory isnt the only one to co-opt a name that it had no connection to (cough-Henry-cough). Not to mention that when S&W colluded with Clinton they were owned by the British engineering firm Tomkins. The company is based in Genesco Illinois, near Chicago. No sane company would move in to Illinois unless it was to curry political favor in Chicago as Boeing moving their HQ (no production) did. This should put some perspective on how important this issue is to many of us. Thankfully, we still have two more chances to stop this travesty of a bill. Do you know how much the dealer bought them for? you cant fix prices or youll get a shortage. Anytown on I80 feels like the Chicago area to the downstaters. S&W was sold for 12% of its former value. Last Updated. * How to order a firearm: See The Guide. Sadly, some of the collar county Repubs arent so much. Wheres the proof they had enough influence to dictate what that organization did. No guilt trip on my hip. IMO, this last election postponed the literal civil war Ive been advocating for for over 10 years. Bonus was it was stainless frame and made in the USA. Its easy for consumers to march elsewhere, skilled Illinois tradespeople may not be so lucky. I think it was meant to be used with gloves on only. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. So in a nutshell Ruger and Springfield are now on the list. As an Illinois dealer, I will no longer stock, sell or support Rock River Arms or Springfield Armory products. RRA looks pretty darn guilty or pretty darn incompetent. Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. I used to have a TRP. Its pretty much just SA and RRA (and maybe a few tiny shops, but those are pretty much the only two big gun makers in Illinois). Those bastards. I have talked to people in person in TN that were overjoyed at having Beretta move there. Dicks/Field & Stream, Troy, Hexmag, RRA, Springfield Arms, Target, CTD, et al, are making it hard on themselves.They are alienating their demographic. After Ruger (finally) gets all of its new products launched they will have just about all the bases covered. Antifa is showing what they are willing to do, watch their fellow komrad take a LEO beanbag round to the wang and keep marching. But I struggle with the NEVER AGAIN WILL I EVER SUPPORT THIS COMPANY. thats what matter and they put that last. Imagine, a corrupt Illinois politician! They keep voting for F#$%ing Democrats. Find gray, black, tan, alpine and other finishes on these .223 Rem / 5.56mm, .450 Bushmaster or 6.8 SPC chambered rifles. I just bought a DDM4V11 in January at an unheard of, low price of $1369. Couple of Butler Buildings, concrete pad to support machinery loading, movers and a power hookup. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. They fixed the old rifle, returned it to me and offered me the M1A for all the troubles I had experienced. We reserve the right to adjust product prices as dictated by the market.. Hence why, even with Democrats holding a super-majority in both our House and Senate, and a rabidly anti-gun Governor, we held the line even post-Newtown. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins. Please, spend your money where you want. I would sell the xd .45 and the xdm 9mm I already have but I dont think there is much of a market for them now. I totally agree Travis. IFMAs Keller testified in March at the Illinois Senate Judiciary committee of his willingness to consider dropping the lobbying groupsopposition to the bill if his clients were exempted. AND started planning to move out of the state. Built on the companys RRAGE upper and lower receiver and handguard assemblies, the pistol delivers a sleek profile. Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. Every damn one of you bad asses crying I wont buy from them again would have done the same thing. Up yours Springfield! If only there was a place to run-and-gun in or near NWI. Kahr moved out of NY. Was also saving up for an m1a. The lobbying group in question received money from SA and RRA back in 2014. I checked my order history. While it was a great pistol, the front strap checkering was just way too aggressive for bare hands. They did what they thought would keep the Criminal Clinton Administration from making a total all out war on guns. My inventory of six XD pistols two 1911 .45s and two M 1As will be up for sale tommorow. That will never happen now. But thats only a fraction of his treachery. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the Pieces, Quote of the Day: The Johnny Appleseed of Ghost Guns, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, State, Federal Lawmakers Trying to Put the Brakes On Credit Card Companies Tracking Firearm Purchases, Chicagos Failed Mayor Lori Lightfoot Loses in Reelection EffortBadly, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history, http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. Rock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer located in Colona, Illinois. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? I dont expect everyone to feel that way. In my collection i have a M1A, a Socom 16, a XDM in 45 and a XDmod2 in 9mm. Whats the feedback at the NRA show running like? Ruget supported the ban on high capacity (ie standard capacity) mags as it favored their line of sporting rifles like the mini-14. We need to defend our legacy from the likes of them !! This was a bit disingenuous because, basically, both companies were They spent weeks trying to gin up interest in the XD-E introduction with their mysterious ads, and it was all for nothing. Like other gun-manufacturers Springfield can move its operations to a gun-friendly state. Thats bad math and bad leadership. Springfield isnt doing anything that the vast majority of companies do, protecting their bottom line. This rifle also has an RRA TRO-XL extended free float rail handguard and an accuracy of 3/4 MOA at 100 Yards. The RRA LAR-15 is a quality gun, in just about any configuration you can come up with. when supply cant meet demand, then the price increases.. this draws more suppliers into the market to meet demand and you see the price decrease. Helps to have the older experience but not insurmountable. Never give one inch or miles will be lost. Olympic Arms continued this legacy with its OA-93, OA-96 and OA-98 models. because Im sure you dont live in illinios. Neither will have the working capitol to sustain a relocation. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Black Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Brake Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751B; Rock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Flat Dark Earth (FDE) Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Br Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751T; Rock River Arms (RRA) has introduced a new AR-style rifle to its lineup, designed specifically with the modern hunter in mind, with the new All Terrain Hunter (ATH). The rights of citizens that theyve agreed to negotiate away will NEVER be restored. The Springfields looked to be a good value. We feel that IFMAs And their quality has never wavered (damn straight). Oh yes, the Senator behind the bill has many skeletons, http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/illinois-state-senator-don-harmon-law-firm-makes-millions-from-state-agencies-pension-funds-the-watchdogs-oak-park/. All have been accurate and reliable. When the Maryland Leftistlature passed the odious Gun Safety Act of 2013, making it illegal to purchase many of the firearms made by the venerable Beretta concern, they responded by building their new facility in Tennessee, giving Maryland a stalwart raised middle finger and taking a considerable amount of tax revenue with them.. Ive not the least doubt that the rest of Beretta will eventually follow. Springfields crime here is they didnt immediately counter the IFMA when the IFMA dropped opposition to a bill. I only purchase products from them with free shipping because they rape you on shipping. What if I want to get some real nice (read expensive) gun and in order to spare my familys budget I decide to sell part of my gun collection? It washis lobbyist whostood aside on a bill that rations everyday Illinoisans to nine firearm transfers per year. 2) One of the Resses got caught doing something bad again, and a deal was reached to help anti-2nd forces in exchange for an investigation going away. We need the pistols to get to our rifles anyway. He didnt say, Hey, we screwed up. Instead, we were undercut by aself-serving supposed ally. Hes totally grasping at straws on that point in his video. My SA 1911 Loaded Target has been my favorite pistol since I bought it last year. They were charging $100 for a 30 round mag during the panic. Totally revitalized the economy of an American community with their 3rd plant. IRS records have also been found that shows Reese is on the board of IFMA. I dont have anything from either of the turncoat manufacturers and based on their actions, I never will. 84283412342. You probably also found out that at least bizapedia reports that the IFMA was dissolved. Nobody moves a company to New York (Remington has moved most out). As has been said by numerous others, that Springer I had thought about buying just got thrown under the bus. The LAR-15 X-Series X-1 Rifle in .223/5.56mm from Rock River Arms is available at a manufacturer suggested retail price of $1,450.00 and $1,500.00, depending on the stock and color option (Black and Tan). I wanted one with the threaded barrel and suppressor sights. Because of rumors of canceled orders. chamber also differ from the 5.56 mm NATO chamber (This is in response to Mark). Out of stock. You ask what was Springfield supposed to do? The lobbyists sometimes seriously overestimate how happy something will make a member or simply dont have the time to keep the membership completely up to date with minute-by-minute updates on how wrangling over a bill is proceeding. There are more corrupt justices out their than honest ones. A corrupt Illinois politician. And gun control wins, like this keep the gravy train flowing so they can continue to draw a paycheck and keep on going. In the world of .308 Win. Great gun. Dont own a Springfield anything and now never will. No more. That is amazingly Send a signal to IL Senators and the Governor that supporting the bill is politically a trainwreck. CMMG .300 blackout will become my next purchase. The Ruger is berween $6-700. Major mistake, Springfield. Sure, the majority will be DOA, but blue and swing states will see this get passed using this an example of good gun control that even firearms companies support. Tony- IFMA is SAs and RRAs lobbying firm(as opposed to an existing firm that SA hired. If you sell more than 9 guns per year, you are in the business of selling guns. LAR 8 is a nice weapon. At least Henry, like Ruger, is 100% American. Good for them, too. job creation they call it (bribery is such a dirty word). Here I was just falling in love with my SA 1911 Loaded. James Jeffrey, the author's friend, WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Lightweight Mountain Rifle | MT1800X 5.56 NATO (223 Rem), 16" Chrome-Moly Lightweight BBL, Semi-Automatic, 6-Position Black Stock, Black Finish, RRA Lightweight, 30+1 Rds. Other places have them for $200.00. Everyone here is minding our business, because its our business where our money goes. WebRock River Arms creates high quality rifles and pistols on the AR platform. Did Springfield get shouted down at their own party? The plant where that rifle is made revitalized the area n which it is made. Meanwhile, theres another, ahem, firearm blog, that refuses to address the SA/RRA issue. The silent majority will get the shaft, not gonna be any civil war, get over yourself. Rock River Arms is one of the largest manufacturers of AR-15 rifles in the United States. Magpul moved. All businesses are licensed at the state level. I was just about to purchase a 1911 with the deal Springfield is running this week. Who Makes Rock River Arms? For folks like me, it is no longer enough to be willing to fight and die for these rights, but to be willing to kill for them as well. Damn shame. Everyone (hopefully) recognizes that Bloomberg et al use bad legislation in NY and elsewhere as models to sell to politicians elsewhere, hence the need to use all available legal avenues to demonstrate the fallout from such actions. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. The vocal retards who screamed about this conveniently ignored that last part. Expect deep, deep discounts on that warehouse full of XD-Es and Saints they were hoping to sell this summer. So an opportunity to block others selling in Illinois seemed like a quick and dirty way to make a few more bucks. Get a Dan Wesson instead. The law doesnt get past the senate without Springfields cooperation. Very close to where I grew up. 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