BRs own history says otherwise. Agree, having at least 'intercity', 'regional' and 'metro' would be good. Managed to get a look at a new proposed one: But my point is that DB have had the same basic livery for so long. The double arrow is still overused, though. But the point is that effort has gone into developing a brand and what it stands for, it isn't just harking back to the awful 1970s, a time people seem to be seeing with a large pair of rose tinted spectacles. Erm are you sure about that? RM CN0PKR - Britania 70000 in British Railways Livery at West Somerset Railway, Minehead, UK RM C1N4A7 - Totnes Littlehempston Station with Goods Vehicle in authentic 'British Railways' Livery, Totnes, Devon, England, United Kingdom RM ER5JCR - 46138 Royal Scot Class Steam Locomotive - British Railways L Suffice to say, an actual English nationalist would not be passing controversial legislation to enable Westminster to spend even more money on Northern Ireland, as this Government is. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I imagine the LNER and GWR branding will be around the longest, as its allready kind of govt created and most in line with DfT standards. Blue Pullman in grey and blue livery arriving at Bristol Temple Meads in 1973. The Transport Secretary announced on 19 October 2022 that the Transport Bill which would have set up GBR would not go ahead in the current parliamentary session.[2]. London Midland (pre LNR), that was white on black but the same idea. Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked? Theres no vote in Northern Ireland for him or his Conservative party so he doesnt care, hes hands off.. Differences should merely be factual, not corporate. Compared to the superb branding packages of TfW and ScotRail, it does not say "come use the railway . Creating a separate thread for this as it's quite a big topic, potentially. In 1956 an all-over darker maroon, which more closely resembled the pre-nationalisation LMS livery, was re-introduced, except for the Southern Region, where locomotive-hauled stock was generally painted 'coaching stock' green (from July 1956-on) and a small number of express carriages on the Western Region which were in traditional GWR-style chocolate and cream. NR do infrastructure in Wales & Scotland, don't they? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I wanted to go for something modern yet flexible. Heh. The BR that believed in having multiple liveries and brands? Infrastructure, passenger, and freight services were separated at that time. And the more I see RA2 and its symbols, the more clumsy it looks. The old Northern signs worked well, but only Metro/WYCA really got behind the co-branding opportunities, that I saw. Corridor coaching stock and certain express multiple unit classes were painted in Rail Blue with a 44-inch Pearl Grey (BS 2660-9-095) horizontal panel centred vertically on the main windows, outlined by a narrow white line. The colours were chosen to be different from those of any of the "Big Four" pre-nationalisation railway companies while retaining a traditional aspect. There are conflicting view on Britain versus Great Britain. for some form of co-branding. The anniversary of the Battle of Hastings which took place in 1066 was also used in publicity for the line. Great British Railways ( GBR) is a planned state-owned public body that will oversee rail transport in Great Britain, [1] with the exception of Transport for London and Merseytravel services, and light rail and trams elsewhere in England. English regions, Scotland, and Wales will have their own variants, but these will still emphasise the national nature of GBR. Then why was the old version called British Railways, not Great British Railways, and why the change now for the new version if British Railways worked . The Great British Railways Transition Team is developing a range of rail freight growth target options. [7], Under Network Rail, all stations are formally in public hands since 2014, but only 20 (mainly large termini and central stations) are managed directly by it. The livery was carried on the rolling stock, but also on a number of locomotives which were dedicated to mail and parcels traffic, mainly of Classes 47 and 90. Antrim Princess Sealink ferry underway in Larne with Sealink letters. In response to this announcement, the Great British Railways Transition Team is looking at changes to support the development of the new industry structure, and considering ways in which the current system can be simplified and improved. Great Northern split, with the Moorgate services becoming part of the London Overground brand and the Kings Lynn route becoming part of the LNER brand. This isn't true, there have been subtle changes. It may not display this or other websites correctly. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. The rail system is a public service not an art gallery. The bottom one is basically Serco era Northern signage, and does look good to me, though I would go for a subtle double arrow in the bottom right as I said earlier, and omit the GBR text. BR's first standard locomotive liveries, adopted from 1949 onwards. It'll be operated quite differently. The Overground operates under its own livery. It will also control the contracting of passenger train services, the setting of fares and timetables, and the collection of fare revenue, with the exception of services wholly within Scotland and Wales. Corridor coaching stock was originally trialled in LNWR coach plum and off-white (nicknamed Plum and Spilt Milk) before Crimson (carmine red) and Cream livery (nicknamed Blood and Custard) was adopted across the network; non-corridor stock was painted plain Crimson. They were numbered in two series, D5500-D5699 and D5800-D5862. The Union Jack will represent. Because it was a nationalised industry run by the British Government. [2] It was a dark, greyish blue tone which hid the effects of dirt well. Within a period of 10 years, HSTs had three different liveries. The creation of Great British Railways (GBR) has been dubbed as the end to "a quarter-century of fragmentation" and a means to provide "accountable national leadership". Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. The infrastructure was privately owned and operated by Railtrack from 1994 to 2002, when it was renationalised and transferred to Network Rail. GBR is currently running a competition to find a town or city outside London to host its headquarters. I just see the thing as extremely surface level. GBR will develop masterplans for station renewal. It appears that while the plan is to brand all trains under GBR with one branding, that plan involves a much longer time scale: . The pleasure's all mine. The concession contract system will be the long-term replacement for the previous system of passenger rail franchising run by the Department for Transport, which became unsustainable early in 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic. [11][12], The location for GBR's headquarters is currently being determined. I'm not convinced "InterCity" services warrant different branding now, as they are no longer of premium quality in terms of service provision; in many case they're just regional or commuter services (thinks XC and GWR in particular). For 2mm/N equivalents, change the start of the reference number FRH4 for FRH2. But we know that anyway - ScotRail is blue based, as was Regional Railways. 1948 -. I think there would be huge advantages of a standard livery and branding across the Britain, in saving money and presenting a unified product to the customer. A corporate livery was created for major express services in Scotland, which effectively consisted of the InterCity livery with the red stripe replaced by a light blue one. It's already been seen with the government controlled LNER and GWR franchises for example. Last week Doug Beattie, the newly-installed leader of the Ulster Unionist Party, hit out at Boris Johnson. So even if that doesn't become the actual 'GBR' logo it will likely see some use on stations and maybe trains. "Image of No.47163 with Silver Jubilee Union Jack", History of Blood and Custard (Crimson Lake & Cream) Livery, Information on Freight Locomotive Liveries & logos, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_corporate_liveries&oldid=1136093401, Articles with unsourced statements from December 2014, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. How many people list how attractive a train is when you ask them why they decided to go by car or train? But do we really want to go back to that? It would appear that were going to be waiting a while even for the new logo, and that given the recent nature of the franchise liveries, that new liveries are a very long way off. Messages: 1,398. At present, train operators get to decorate their rolling stock in their own colours. And other European countries cope with DB trains in France, SNCF trains in Germany etc. Yes i like it, very clean and professional looking. WMT (operationally separate from LNWR by this point) brand to be used additionally on XC services to Nottingham and Leicester (stopper only). Scottish rolling stock not covered by the ScotRail livery (generally those on secondary services) received the Regional Railways livery, but with "ScotRail" branding. No.31271 in Railfreight "triple grey" livery with Construction sector markings. In 1977 two Class 47 locomotives, 47163 and 47164, were painted by Stratford TMD with silver roofs and other decorations including a full body height Union Flag on each side, in celebration of Queen Elizabeth II's silver jubilee. All HS2 and NPR services to be branded as Intercity Express. Free delivery for many products! I quite like that version; I think I might like it even more if the black and the red were blue instead though. We need more national institutions to give a British shape to life, and GBR should be one of them. Variants to the national brand will be developed to refect the English regions, Scotland and Wales, while emphasising that the railway is one network serving the whole of Great Britain. The name is still awful though and far too long. The old BR liveries look dated now and have done for a while. [17] This livery is also often nicknamed 'toothpaste livery' by rail enthusiasts due to the multicoloured stripes resembling striped toothpaste. From 1956 maroon (similar to crimson lake) was adopted as the standard colour for coaching stock, with corridor coaches lined and non-corridor plain initially: later on all stock was lined. Rail alphabet had the advantage of being clear, legible and was pretty much consistently applied. Feb 1, 2020. Home Forums The signs look good, if a bit bland and functional. don't see an issue anywhere, as long as the concessions stay branded with whatever. Its not as if they need the advertising, nor do their brands carry the historic and emotional heft that the famous schemes of the genuinely private railways did. I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. One thing that might work, though, would be to drop the full text from the red band and just have a subtle double arrow on the right hand side in that. The livery comprised brown upper panels with a colour described variously as "biscuit" or "fawn" along the lower panels and separated by a broad orange band. | Page 23 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. I dont think we will see train liveries being changed for a while. Great Central Railway {} Sample: 002366: Great Eastern Railway {} Sample: 00a550: Great Northern Railway (Great Britain) {{GNGE colour}} Sample: 00645b: Great Northern and Great Eastern Joint Railway {{GWGC colour}} Sample: 47640f: Great Western and Great Central Joint Railway {} Sample: 964b00: Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway GBR will own all stations and most infrastructure in Great Britain. The colour often appears inaccurately in photographs, generally appearing brighter and bluer than the real colour. GBR will be made up of five regional divisions, organised in line with Network Rail's Putting Passengers First programme. Likes Received: 1,930. I never knew I had OCD until that remark lol. But thats the insidious appeal of nationalism: it willalwaysbe easier, in the short term, to spurn complicating national attachments in favour of tacking to local winds and making off with as much cash as you can lay your hands on. It's good work (and the previous set). But do you think Queen Nicola would accept trains branded as "Rail England" coming across the border? That's what happens when small-minded people look back on a classic that was before their time with a warped sense of populism. You are using an out of date browser. I said this on another thread, but this is definitely a more appropriate one. If it was, that format would not be used by: If you need any proof, they've also just done the same with 'Great British Nuclear'. A High Speed Train power car (loco) and coach in InterCity swallow livery. The current lot is an absolute mess. [6], The Vale of Rheidol Railway remained steam operated past the general end of steam traction in 1968; Accordingly the three remaining Vale of Rheidol Railway steam locomotives (Class 98) received the Rail Blue colour scheme and the double arrow logo on their side tanks. 3,609. thomalex said: One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. Coaches from different regions could also often find themselves coupled together and trains of 2 or 3 mixed liveries were not uncommon. I have heard that the BR double arrows will remain in use due to the fact that in the UK everyone recognises it as the 'train station' symbol. Wholely agree. Read about the differences between Britain, the. its going to be at least 6 months before we even get a branding document, and IMO over 2 years before we get any new liveries or Humbrol paints. How about that but the double arrow in red? Wrap yourself up in the flag and sing rule Brittania. This mock-up was shown in an orange and grey livery, which, however, never appeared on rolling stock in service. The Great British Railway - and please, spare us the flag-waving - will incorporate Network Rail (renationalised in 2002 after privatised Railtrack collapsed), ticketing and awarding operator . Given that the vast majority of passengers dont really care what the brand is, do GBR really need a brand? JavaScript is disabled. This idea often seems to pop its head up. Most of the coverage has focused on this. Upon sectorisation, most secondary passenger routes which did not fall under the InterCity or Network SouthEast banner were re-designated as Regional Railways (originally Provincial). Finsbury Park. I suspect not many. Now there's a system others can look up to. The rail system is no more a public service than coach companies or supermarkets. Eastern, North Eastern and Scottish. I don't think the red understripe would appear though, and there will still be calls from TfGM, WYCA TfWM, TfW, etc. Also, like I said, it's possible that they legally can't call it BR. I'd go along with that from a "looks right" perspective, but it would be almost impossible to see from (for instance) inside a train in darkness. In May 2022, the Government announced proposed legislation to modernise rail services and improve reliability for passengers. [5] As Rail Blue was introduced, the last locomotive recorded as being outshopped in a previous livery was Class 43 D838 Rapid which left Swindon Works in August 1968 in maroon. No complaints really over the Rail Alphabet, I even like seeing it on old BR signage that still exists here and there. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; Heh. For example, the Midland Railway abolished Second-class on 1 st . For example, GWRs London to Bristol, Penzance, Cardiff, Oxford etc might be wrapped up with a GBR Express or GBR Intercity, but the GWR commuter/regional services under a different brand name. The old Northern signs worked well, but only Metro/WYCA really got behind the co-branding opportunities, that I saw. It will become a single familiar brand with a bold new vision for passengers - of punctual services, simpler tickets. For locomotives used on internal British Rail duties, a separate livery of a plain darker grey was created. Goodbye. However, these bodies will be required to coordinate with GBR to deliver a single national rail network, including one website and app, as well as following national branding and passenger standards. GBR is similar enough to channel some continuity with BR but distinct enough to admit it's a different entity. I'm working on building a GBR brand from the ground up for the next few days (my calendar is completely empty), starting with a logo. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? Why does it need to look the part - what does nationalisation look like? Plus what is one persons opinion of a great livery will be different to the next. But it invites an obvious question: what is to be done about it? I personally do not think there should be a standard livery across the network on the grounds that regional identity would be lost. There's rather a lot to list if you want to do it completely! I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It may not display this or other websites correctly. 1948 -. Anyone got a suggestion for the government's latest bright idea today along the same lines, '. Japan had JNR (Japan National Railways) and now, post nationalisation, it has JR (Japan Railways). A bit like this but without the fuzzy outline on the text and double arrow (caused by MS Paint's paint bucket tool): Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I had a play around with this, and I agree, it looks. Great British Railways (GBR) is a planned state-owned public body that will oversee rail transport in Great Britain,[1] with the exception of Transport for London and Merseytravel services, and light rail and trams elsewhere in England. Aren't best impressions the ones that did the 2015 Virgin East Coast HST? Apple Green. It will replace Network Rail as the operator of rail infrastructure across all of Great Britain (excluding some Valley Lines in Wales and some Merseyrail lines). But then every time I look at a train, I'll think of a bus. The system just looks like a disparate random mish mash of different organisations each running trains in their own way. The livery derived its nickname from a perceived resemblance to the internal appearance of a Jaffa Cake. Swiss rail. A railway works best as a single unit. [13], On 5 February 2022, the Department for Transport launched a public consultation for the location of GBRs headquarters. Please can you explain the advantage of such a nationwide livery? JavaScript is disabled. Introduced in 1965, and also known as "Monastral Blue", the colour was defined by British Rail standards BR28/6001 (Airless spray finish) and BR28/5321 (Brush finish). GW 1 1 Great British Railways The attachments illustrate this. Search for a trade mark - Intellectual Property Office (ipo.gov.uk), https://twitter.com/MrTimDunn/status/912009372292780033, Somewhere along the West Anglia Main Line. Make the name central and it'd be perfect. With the publication of the Williams review and the announcement of the renationalization of British Passenger Rail, i thought i might help out anyone exited for new liveries or branding for trains. 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