LE has really messed up -- particularly waiting too long to release info. I found the Facebook page for KS. Libby was experienced on the bridge. Or something like that. my leg is just not letting me heal on this crime. Garnett testified that Delphi had come to his home after learning her parents were angry with her for leaving her brothers and going to a party. That was one of, if not the most, gruesome murder I have ever read about. "True Crime Jesus" on Youtube has convincing videos about different POIs. Every tip received is entered into an FBI system called Pyramid. That system stores information like names, descriptions and motives so it can be cross-referenced with other tips locally and across the country to find any possible connections. Police announce charges against Richard Allen in Delphi murder case. Both images, shown below, depict the same white man wearing blue jeans, a blue coat/jacket and a hoodie. The cops could have taken the images and recording from the cloud. Here's some pics of the dad, But honestly all these white guys look alike. This is the fatal flaw. Died: April 11, 2002 (20 years Ago), HomeTown: London, England, United Kingdom. And it was in no way someone going rogue. This was a deliberate move by those handling the case to draw someone out. 19521975, 1990. The Snapchat photo shows Abigail walking on the abandoned railroad bridge. It took the panel two hours to return with a penalty of life behind bars. Her only child. Not uncommon at all. For other inquiries, Contact Us. This. Whoever the SOB he follows the threads closely, and more than likely gets a sick thrill from posting as well . They threaten you, they don't go jump start to killing two people. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1926 and died on April 11, 2002. Holy shit! Ok, that tattoo gave me chills. Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenvy has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. This tattoo. A. Her head was placed on a mantle, looking down at her body. You could also do it yourself at any point in time. No. I saw someone mention they thought both girls were strangledthinking about that, means 1 girl had to watch this happen to the other..which i dont see happening. What a sick motherfucker this one is. I'm sure the Police know more. The only way we will resolve to gain justice for Abby and Libby, for their respective families and our caring community, is to remain dedicated to the preservation of said integrity. Guys is used by midwesterners to address both sexes. The people who end up owing are typically dealers down the chain to the suppliers. I think this thread has a link to the helicopter photos. Would you like Wikipedia to always look as professional and up-to-date? (example: cause of death: spinal fractures mode of death: falling of the bridge in a suspected suicide) 8 Reply Molleeryan 6 yr. ago That's the problem with the internet. the Arts Educational School in Hertfordshire, her West End debut came at the age of 16 in the play Forget Me Not Lane. I suspect they were gagged. Its 65-70 feet off the river deck. But I dont think in this case it was someone who knew these girls. It hasnt had a train on it since 1929," Carter said during a press conference on April 22, 2019. r288 that's chilling. Why doesn't this redditer just say what it is in summary? They knew in advance they would have that snow makeup day off so they could have told the "model" they would be there 2 weeks prior to their murders. No. They need to take their time and make sure they get it right and have the evidence they need to convict. You're funny, r3, but the story really is horrifying. Although investigators have never given the exact context to the images or audio taken from the video, they have said they were taken during suspected criminal activity.. I believe the current theory is that it's actually Kline's father that is the prime suspect for the murders. Because why else would anybody pretend to be CERTAIN it's not him? I am guessing they were staged Pieta-like. The True Crime Garage podcast just dropped a 3 part episode all focused on one person of Interest. Last night, I read through a long thread on Reddit and it was frightening, sad, and had information that I hadn't read before. There should be no evidentiary protection in releasing that unless LE is protecting their decisions to have many untrained personnel search, then stop the overnight search, and then refuse the dogs who were en-route from another city. Anyone could have easily convinced the young girls that they werent allowed to be on the bridge and must return by a different route, then guiding them down the hill to an alternative route to the trail head. In the thread, a poster has made several Photoshop images that show how the photo of Liberty used on the Missing posters matches up with a creepy tattoo on the guy's arm. It's almost 4am and I am checking out her FB friends. Trump supporters galore; and more than their share of criminal element. I WONDER why we could think this guy might possibly have been involved. Seems old enough. Either way, this fucker is going down for assault, kidnapping, attempted murder and molestation of a child. Could be the same guy. I know I could be proven wrong but thats my issue with the catfish theory. It makes a person nauseous to read it. But a lack of further evidence prevented Daniel Nations from being arrested. Now it looks like they were and by this fat pedo. His wife Cantor Cathy Lawrence confirmed the news to The Hollywood Reporter but did not specify a cause of death at the time. What's the update? It's unclear now whether Kline is being investigated as a suspect in the case. They have video, audio, and they should have dna of the killer, yet this case has been unsolved for nearly three years. Most serial killers have a "type" of victim that they fantasize about about. As we were leaving the room, he said, OK. For some reason i cant remember if this has ever been confirmed - but did both girls have scarves around their necks at the funerals??? People believe it [though] because its on the internet.. WebDelphi Cajetana Holzman: Occupation: actress: Age: 70 years old : Zodiac Sign: Aries : Born: 23 March 1932: Birthday: 23 March: Birthplace: Hampstead, London, England, UK: You will lose all power. Same build, coloring, age of victims. If they'd released more info to begin with, the guy might be in prison by now. He looked away during poignant moments and gulped at one point. If it predates the Delphi murders, it's likely someone he "memorialized". If I hadnt let him take her home, she would probably be alive today.. was pregnant (or feared to be) & she was killed to keep that from going forward & interfering with the groovy young life of whatever boy. And interestingly he is web savvy. It's like those paedophile hunters who try and entrap pervs who the cops may already be monitoring. that sketch looks a LOT like him. People age so differently. Are there any possible POIs who are widely believed to be involved, or does everyone on Reddit have their own pet perp? The source code for the WIKI 2 extension is being checked by specialists of the Mozilla Foundation, Google, and Apple. Those amateur sleuths on Reddit are batshit crazy. Also, I think it was unlikely an online correspondent because couldnt he be traced? I wonder who called him as a tip and why? The crimes are very similiar. Sometimes you may find a user who owes but that's not often and it would be small amounts. Indiana State Police previously said that autopsies were carried out on R473 The Sheriff said that there are 3-4 people that they believe could be the killer(s) and that it changes. all throughout this investigation, there is a pose feature. I didnt see him again that night. I want to know more about what kind of DNA they have and if it could get the killer. I do believe he got them to cooperate and keep quite by holding a weapon on one girl and telling them one sound and she was dead. It appears to be nothing but fantasy and speculation r398, nothing more. Im assuming he means fear on her face as the guy approaches.I cannot imagine having to view images and crime scenes like this and then go home and live normally. R89- How long until the girls were found? But the Facebook is a girlso you believe its a male? This young guy, our cousin, who called himself her protector was the prime suspect. i was wondering about this as well. However, I do not think she is trustworthy. That first composite sketch was created after police said they received information from witnesses who were in the area at the time Libby and Abby went missing. Investigators have released two grainy images from that video that shows a man were to believe was behind the girls on that bridge, a short clip of that man walking, an audio recording of a man presumably the same one saying Guys. I think this thread has a virus or something? Law enforcement's relative radio silence over the probe has permitted a swell of speculation to mount online - something Holeman acknowledged. The teens took a walk down some historic, wooded trails on the east side of town, and ended up stepping onto the old Monon High railroad bridge. So incredibly sad. How would this case be handled from the beginning had there not been any audio/video of the person of interest? This also speaks to an evidentiary aspect of the investigation. He told the jurors that he had indeed given the statement Durnell described to police, but said it had been done so under duress, coerced by a promise to let him see his mother, whom they said had been taken to the hospital upon hearing of his arrest. I think its more likely someone who knows the area (truck driver? I was recently educated on this point by someone who knows more about True Crime than I do. And you know what they say about a stopped clock And maybe that Reddit thread was started by PB R204. He may have been interupted before he could finish whatever he had planned or felt in danger of getting caught out. I really hope so. Does the suspect have internet access? Why could they be the suspect. Chadwell, of Lafayette, was investigated in connection to the crime shortly after his arrest. But posting inside a thread is okay, unless it's one of their delusional political stories. The second sketch was of a younger looking guy. Meat packing plant worker?) The guy in the video is hunched over and walking somewhat oddly because you have to look down at the wooden slats to walk carefully on that bridge. click ACCEPT. It was probably the county sheriff's nephew. On sub-Reddit DelphiIsTheDays Timeline there is a post asserting fellow student Cheyenne said on FB she heard screaming and called 911. Who knows if that is true. This development, if you can call it that, seems desperate. I cant say theres not a threat to the community, Indiana State Police Sgt. That does ring true. The video shows the suspect walking along the bridge behind Libby and Abby. His Instagram has a lot of selfies taken on various bridges. I never wanted children and dont even like them but this case really bothers me. "I run through that day every day, trying to find out if there is something I could have done differently," Kelsi said. license plate, year, make, model, color). So, it was really, really important. It really is a creepy coincidence, though. Before the murders, Libby had her aunt do a factory reset of her phone (Libby's phone) because it was acting up. [quote]Does the suspect have internet access? See full bio Born: They are still at the age/mind set of obeying adults without question, even subconsciously. She passed away on April 11, 2002 in Northport, which is located on Long Island in the state of New York, USA. Investigators worked up a composite sketch of the man in the photo. R183, I agree. Garnett, he said, was the son of Lawrences uncle, but was living with his mother, Betty Garnett, and a stepfather, Sam Whitaker Jr., on South Adams Street in the borough. It could explain why Liberty was left undressed (to shame her and the family) and the other girl wasnt (collateral damage). WEST CHESTER Delphi Lawrence had been dead a little over a year when Chester County Common Pleas Court Judge Thomas A. Pitt Jr. called the case of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania vs. Carl Garnett. Just that I assume he was some sort of transient. Both sketches show a thin lipped man. The bridge has slats of decayed wood. Guys, the leaker, Leigh Kerr, will answer questions in an AM(almost)A tomorrow (Sunday) at 6:00pm EST. Who is looking at who, and why do they think the person being looked at is the killer? They then posed for pictures standing on the murdered children's graves. Too bad this pos hasn't. Please clarify the two sketches, this has been a point of confusion since the second sketch was released. One thing I believe is that he targeted only one of the girls. "After I started my forensics classes, I understood more of why we don't have all the answers," Kelsi said. Where was Brenda Dickson? Our first cousin.. The pair of eighth-graders spent the afternoon posting photos of their journey on Facebook. not saying they were sexually assaulted, but posed they were. I've thought about it repeatedly since it happened. Give Light and the People Will Find Their Own Way, Indianapolis, IN Interactive Weather Radar, Libby German's sister hopes Twitter can help find her killer, A look at the property where two missing teen girls were found dead, ISP call Liberty German a 'hero' for capturing audio, photos of suspect. I suspect youre right R197, but no one should EVER assume gender. In the past three years, only one person of interest has ever been named. Most notably: "The way you left them in those woods is not IS NOT what they're experiencing today". "Speaking on behalf of state police, we dont ever release information about ongoing investigations, Holeman said. God, they have to catch this piece of human garbage! The jury of sex men and six women, however, accepted the pleas of Garnetts attorney and declined to sentence him to death. West End star Stephanie Lawrence died of natural causes after suffering from The FBI hadn't been involved there either. Thank you. There is an escort from that area who recorded the judge Kurtis Fouts and he resigned. R96 I thought the SAME thing and then felt guilty for it! What about Gabriel Ellis or Kurt Fouts (caught with an escort who said that judge Fouts was part of a sex club run by men who abuse girls in 2017).? Browsing Reddit and found this mugshot of the suspect from a year before the murders and he looks a lot like one sketch of the murderer. My term ends in 2022 [and I] would love nothing more than to see someone convicted of this crime before I am out of office.. R500 That's definitely weird. R143, I dont have HLN. What happened to the girls doesn't have to have been "freaky" to upset people, just finding them partly clothed or nude and dead, possibly posed, would be bad enough. If sexual assault wasn't the motive, the motive must have been something else we're not aware of - such as a payback for a parent's debt. She made a brief return in 1975 in the Broadway production of TheConstantWife playing the sister of IngridBergman's character.[2]. She was a veteran of the Royal Variety Performance and was commissioned for a Ive always thought it was some rando lucky-psycho that day. Bluestine, of the Innocence Project, said that cases in which the strongest, or only, piece of evidence is a defendants confession are many times the ones that are later shown to be wrongful prosecutions. R393 that's absurd. Explaining that he had made himself a promise when he was about Delphis age to find out the circumstances surrounding her death, Lawrence waited until after March, when his 82-year-old mother, Doris Reeves Lawrence, passed away, to begin asking questions. I discovered this whilst setting my PVR. Delphi LE gave hints that they believe 2 men were involved (one older and one younger). Hours later, when they failed to meet their ride home at that same location it would kick off a series of events that would forever change the tiny town of Delphi, Indiana. People are already calling it out as bullshit. She is currently single. If you see something that doesnt look right, Contact Us. West End star Stephanie Lawrence died of natural causes after suffering fromliver disease, it has R349 Not according to Chadwell's brother in the local news clip.I feel like the tattoo could be any of the 3 females mentioned - Libby, Regan in The Exorcist, or his dead mother. "This is not two people speaking. The cops need to release more of the recording, unedited. Who could harm anyone let alone a child? Danny Rollins. We don't have much information about She's past relationship and any previous engaged. The way he says guys 20 seconds in. R384- STOP TRYING TO MAKE CHADWELL HAPPEN Why do you gaf, you creepy asshole. Several serial killers would return to the decomposing bodies of their victims. But, it still doesn't feel like he's the killer. And even if it was payback for something drug related, it would be a clean execution. Whats with all the secrecy from the cops? Also, it looks as if he is carrying weapons, or a possible "kill kit". A family member dropped the girls off that afternoon with a plan to pick them up a few hours later. And another year slips by.. His clothes make him appear to be in his 40s. That next morning would bring a discovery that none of them were prepared for. It's creepy but it's not of one of the victims, R301, it's weird how so many crimes have these things that seem so incriminating, but aren't at all. Just before Abby Williams and Libby German were killed in the Delphi murders on February 13, 2017, German captured chilling footage of the man who was This killer sounds like he has a remarkably similar MO. Anyone following this case (and this thread) should check out the podcast: Murder Sheet. They also say they now believe that the second sketch is a more accurate depiction of the suspect, although the actual suspect may likely be a mix between both sketches. She made her first film in 1952, and, over the next decade, she established a following in British films. I don't SEE any similarities b/t Chadwell and the suspect. If they know who it is, that name would get out. I dont feel strongly one way or the other, but I dont think its a certainty that they or someone close to them didnt know him. Can we link to Reddit on here? Nothing out there is accurate, which only leads to more false tips.. The parents did a piss poor job of supervising their kids. Investigators say speculations, rumors and comparisons can actually do more to hinder the investigation than to help it. He has a richer sounding name. Google The Delphi murders/reddit/images. IF that all is true, it suggests pre-planning involving multiple people. As the sun went down and the temperature dropped, the search continued through midnight when it was officially suspended, although some family and friends did continue to search into the overnight hours. I check online every few months, hoping that sob has been caught. Someday they will hopefully catch this piece of scum and we will learn the details. On facebook, he gives strong "Todd from vaguebooking" vibes. Within days of the killing, showing two grainy photos of a hat-wearing suspect walking on the abandoned railroad bridge the girls had visited, Liberty's older sister Kelsi German revealed in February 2020 that she is studying forensic science in the hope of one-day helping to solve who killed her sister, Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, was identified as the man behind the catfish account, Grandparents of victim Libby German, Becky Patty, left, and her husband Mike Patty, speak during a news conference, Brother of suspect in 2017 Delphi railtrack murders says he's 'absolutely' capable of killing two girls after 'kidnap', released by police within days of the killings, pleaded guilty to abducting, beating, and molesting a nine-year-old girl, Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). R361 they were 15, not 5. Little by little, he broached the subject with relatives who had previously remained silent about the death. Save a ton of time and money on investigations, get criminals in jail or in electric chairs. There were no eyewitnesses to the crime and little forensic evidence for the jurors to consider. There has yet to be a break in the case, although authorities believe it just takes one piece of the puzzle to solve the horrific Delphi, Indiana, murders. R203 I saw that too, BUT he isnt the only person who suspects this dude. At this point i think they should release more footage from the vid/recording as I think it would help given they obviously have zilch in terms of evidence. I don't work in I.T. R62- Do you think he was "speaking code" to the killer? Scream. I hope this guy ROTS. R97 I think the images and audio were from the cloud. The girls' causes of death have never been disclosed and their killer has never been found. Also in the thread is a link to a compilation of his TikTok video posts and his voice sounds like the voice of the Bridge Guy. 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