DELPHI, Ind. ", He encouraged the community to come forward with more information, and said if any other people "had any involvement in these murders in any way, that person or persons will be held accountable.". DELPHI, Ind. are what led volunteers to the area the bodies were found. And they have found someone who looks at that video that they released and says yes I definitely saw that guy minutes before the girls came by and I saw his face and that's where this sketch came from. or redistributed. Required fields are marked *. I think they love to hate you because you are that good! That Mr. X will be arrested so soon? Tietosuojakytnnstmme ja evstekytnnstmme voit lukea listietoa siit, miten kytmme tietojasi. Monon High Bridge as seen from the south side of the Dreek Creek. Hello Mr Lindsay, I think that I finally found you lol, you invited me to join your group. I think if I were Mr X Id be shitting myself right about now and wondering what the hell to do. On August 14, 2017Indiana State PoliceFirst Sgt. April 22, 2019 Indiana State Police News Bulletin, 3. I have a theory that the crime scene was already set up before the girls were placed there. "New York Times article You Are Hiding in Plain Sight, 15. Did she see him before the crime or after the crime? Online there are supposed text messages detailing the manner of how they were found allegedly sent bya family members ex boyfriend. Ughhhhhh! Turns out it's a guy whose sexually interested in children, who's had multiple arrests for it right? The Delphi Murders turned the small town of Delphi, Indiana from a place no one has heard about, to the place of one of the nation's most heinous, unsolved murders.. Abigail "Abby" Williams, 13-years old, and her best friend Liberty "Libby" Rose Lynn German, 14-years old, went hiking near the Monon High Bridge, a part of the historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana on Monday, February 13 . He ran into a guy and he was coming from the bridge. But this also why the Old BG sketch is no good. Whether those are the same person is not yet known, but it is possible. From 16-17, females are very fertile but their hips are not wide enough to give easy birth to a child, hence the high rate of complications. We agree with Leaker that Young BGs drawing is based on the photo of the 19 year old Catfish Boy that was used to lure Libby from Snapchat. Prosecutors accuse Allen of forcing the girls off of the trails east of the city near the Monon High Bridge. It is not until ages 18-19 with the completion of the widening of the hips (Yes, girls bodies keep developing after 17) that a female is completely suited for pregnancy. Hi Robert have donated to become a member of the Delphi group! [19] [20] He is often referred to online by the moniker "Flannel Shirt Guy" or FSG. Was the secret that one of them had found out she was pregnant? So now we have testimony from three excellent sources two independent search party members and an LE source close to the investigation. Updated: Nov 29, 2022 / 06:57 PM EST. If it is an eyewitness account we may have the next "Unibomber" situation where it is not a match at all. Tweet by an ABC-7 news reporter showing where crime scene tape was located. And when they had found the shoe they had asked what kind of shoes the girls were wearing. The composite sketch was created after state police received new information from witnesses along the trail. [8] At the time of the homicides, the bridge was still owned by CSX but was unofficially used by the community as a public trail. Normally this website would consider this type of information to be rumor and not include it, however due to the high credibility of the two hosts, this is a special circumstance. We have no idea who they may have in mind as the possible accomplice, however, the statement that the suspect is considerably younger than Mr. X adds weight to the notion that the Young BG sketch is based on a person who LE feels may have been accomplice to the crime that day. Much like ISP's investigation, The Murder Sheet's probe into the Delphi killings is also far from over. JBC is innocent of this crime. ", "A Delphi, Indiana, police detective looks for evidence at the scene where the two girl's bodies where found. All the best, Sarah, Your email address will not be published. I saw videos of the bridge and also videos of the trails, if witnesses are seeing other witnesses or even saw BG then isnt it strange that they didnt see Libby or Abby? The man said he had not but that he had seen a couple on the bridge. Investigators announce they are taking a new direction in the case. The suspect, who appears to have no prior criminal record, moved to Delphi from Mexico, Indiana in 2006, and purchased the home he still lives in, which isn't far from where the girls' bodies were found. In this case, Stepson X would be completely innocent and would instead have been simply used as a pawn by Mr. X in committing his crime. And so the other sketch was somebody saw, in the area, and was suspicious about. Multiple news agency were in this news conference on the morning of Wednesday, February 22, 2017. [13]. Kelsi German, Libby's sister, described being under the bridge and being called out to by a group searching. Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details . It is also possible that this journalist meant only to imply that any video of a killer approaching would haunt investigators. Delphi Bridge murder victims Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were found to have lost a large amount of blood when discovered dead close to an Indiana hiking trail in February 2017. Sickens me to watch people make it about lining their pockets, but you know Karna always has a way of rearing it head , Kegan Dunker is Garett Kirts good buddy. ", "A Delphi police detective searches the scene near midday Tuesday where two bodies were found near the banks of Deer Creek.". The supposed screenshots of text messages cannot be verified in any way and will be disregarded by this website. So many new developments. I thought Hughes said the person he heard about had never been mentioned as a POI? Taking into consideration Indiana State Police's statement that the old and new sketch are "not the same person" it stands to reason that this description no longer applies. He is described as a white male between 5 feet 6 inchesand 5 feet 10 inches tall, weighing between 180and 220 poundswith reddish-brown hair. On February 22, 2011 police released an audio recording where the man is heard saying Guys Down the hill The recording is credited to Libby, who secretly recorded the suspect. Delphi murders suspect Richard Matthew Allen, who was arrested last week for the 2017 double slaying of teens Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams, lived and worked in the community. DELPHI MURDERS: WITNESS TIMELINE (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME PODCAST)Examining the witnesses around the Monon High Bridge and the trail. I'm beyond annoyed, I'm surprised you can't see my eyes rolling through the computer. I also didnt take the trail that leads to the right. The angle of approach and side of bridge can be deduced based on the platforms visible and distinctive foliage in the video. The police asked the publics help to identify a vehicle that was seen parked near the Monon High Bridge the day Abby and Libby Killed. From age 16 on, theyre fertile as rabbits. Based on my understanding through reading the case so far, there were at least 4 witnesses at around the trail that day at around the time of down the hill (slightly before or after). Authorities announced Monday the arrest of Richard Allen, center, for the murders of Libby German, left, and her best friend, Abby Williams, in Feb. 2017. Two different composite sketches and a grainy image of the murder suspect recovered from Libby German's cellphone. Cult member who helped to send Charles Manson to prison for life dead at 73. ", Two different composite sketches and a grainy image of the murder suspect recovered from Libby German's cellphone. The police keep saying they're close to solving the case, is that true or is that a bad sign that they're far from it? I only (saw) a guy when I first got there and another couple once I got on the bridge. Delphi murders investigation timeline:Review the case through 5 years of reporting. Law enforcement said Libby started to video record before criminal behavior began to occur. Allen, a 50-year-old CVS worker who has lived in Delphi for more than a decade, has pleaded not guilty to the charges. There may well have been a giant stuffed bear at the scene that day. This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, to have enough presence of mind to activate that video system on her cellphone, to record what we believe is criminal behavior that's about to occur. Witness sees Delphi Murder suspect, but just recently comes forward to help with composite sketch This article says the recent sketch was from a witness who saw BG. They were murdered in a very short window of time between 2:07 pm (when Libby posted a picture of Abby to Snapchat) and 3 pm (when other witnesses were in the area but heard no sounds). So we have four sources for the dolls story, two from LE and two from search party members. Libby is regarded as a true hero for having the presence of mind to record her killer. Hes a suspect, as Mr. X is, as so many people have been. Bob Matlock, the owner of the now-closed JC's Bar an Grill in Delphi, Indiana, said murder suspect Richard Allen, 50, is a married dad-of-two who came to his tavern 3-4 times a week. [5], This would have to have been sometime after they were officially reported missing on February 13, 2017 at 5:20 PM. Witness names, as well as the name of a Delphi detective were kept redacted. "So who knows what lies ahead? Currently, ine and Kevin say they're digging into the past of Allen to find out more about who he was before his arrest, and before he was "plunged into the spotlight of this heinous murder.". Well thats because that's where all the kids were. I'm not sure, the article says the "witness" saw the man WALKING near Delphi the day after the murders.. And nobody else saw him? In the newly unsealed affidavit, multiple witnesses reported seeing a man - who one described as "creepy" - matching Allen's description on the bridge on the afternoon of Feb. 13, 2017. Problem is if you are posting here, youre not posting in the private group. We are still working on identifying all of the DNA that we have there. However it is easy to fake screenshots. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. Now onto the match. DELPHI MURDERS: WHAT TO KNOW ABOUT THE 2017 KILLINGS OF LIBBY GERMAN AND ABBY WILLIAMS. A complication of this investigation is that because the trail area was being used as if it was a public space the evidence collected could easily be unrelated to the case. So the building was still standing but was not in use during the day of the crime February 13, 2017. Police Announce New Direction, Video and Audio, in the Delphi Murders Case. Richard Allen, a 50-year-old Delphi man, was arrested last month. The Indy Channel article Delphi Timeline, 13. He saw something. However, his middle name is different. Anna on the podcast Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Episode: Live from CrimeCon: Little Abby & Libby's familiesTimestamp 14:25, 18. Photo from the perspective of the railroad bridge, view from the west facing east. This article says the recent sketch was from a witness who saw BG. Journalist ine Cain and attorney Kevin Greenlee have been reporting on the 2017 double homicide of Libby German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, for almost two years on their smash-hit podcast The Murder Sheet. He said, 'did you happen to see two girls up there?' Richard Allen's bail hearing has been set for Thursday, June 15 at 8:30 a.m. in Carroll County. I always thought it was child protective services until last year. The search on Bicycle Road might not mean much. The quality of the DNA collected is unknown. RELATED: Arrest made in Delphi murders of 2 teens in 2017; suspect worked at the local pharmacy, residents say. On Reddit someone said Gray Hughes got a huge tip in about a poi and he said that it had to be him and someone in the Reddit comments said that its only a few days until the person he thinks did it is arrested. The Delphi Murder Tip Line was routed to the FBI's Major Case Contract Center in Washington, D.C because of the sheer number of calls they were receiving. I have a notebook with a lot of information I thought was important. Hi there! October 30, 2022; Richard Allen - Indiana Law & Potential Charges Relating to the Delphi Homicide October 29, 2022 The person in the sketch released April 22ndis described as having a youthful appearance, but could fall in the age range from his 20s to late 30s. During an emotional press conference announcing the arrest of Allen on Monday, Indiana State Police (ISP) Superintendent Doug Carter stressed that the investigation is "far from complete. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. Cookie Notice I'm wondering if they're afraid that trying to explain the generation of the sketch would make the community less confident so it's easiest to attribute it to a sudden appearance of a witness. ine said. Missing Indiana girl found in basement; arrested suspect investigated in Delphi murders 04/28/2021 12:27 pm PDT Tippecanoe County. Do you feel that way as well? The Indiana detectives investigating the 2017 Delphi murders claimed on Thursday to have new leads in the case and warned their suspect that they know who he is - but are yet to make any arrests . It could be literally anything. Undated. But a hatchet blow sure would have. Did he work alone as a solo killer? A sheriffs deputy in a nearby town who stated: One of the girls was in the early stages of pregnancy. This would have been found on autopsy, and a statement like that usually means 6-8 weeks pregnant. ", A CVS spokesperson released a statement to Fox News Digital saying the company is "devastated by these murders" and "shocked and saddened to learn that one our store employees was arrested as a suspect in these crimes.". or more realistically, these witnesses are scared that this murderer would come after them too. My thoughts are maybe they were scared and hoping the killer would be caught fast or enough time would pass so he wouldn't remember them and would assume it could be anyone. CSX Transportation ceased its use of the railroad in 1987. And so the other sketch was somebody saw, in the area, and was suspicious about. The girls were reported missing by 5:30 p.m., and an Amber Alert was sent out across the state of Indiana for the missing teenagers. A subreddit dedicated to the unresolved mysteries of the world. Source:Multi-Agency Taskforce Clarifies Points Indiana State Police Bulletin. . Allen, who is married, came forward as a witness in the earlier stages of the investigation, a source told FOX 59. On February 15, 2011, the Indiana State Police department released a still image of a man seen walking near the Monon High Bridge the same afternoon Abby and Libby were there. This section was relatively shallow and during certain seasons it acts as a sandbar. Train crossing the Monon High Bridge. Email tips to rebecca.rosenberg@fox.com and @ReRosenberg. However, the Young BG sketch was the first sketch drawn in the case and was drawn off of eyewitness accounts. Tried to review some LE-provided information regarding the crime scene w/o speculation. As we noted above, one girl suffered a grievous wound to the throat. Both said that dolls were scattered around the crime. Hi Caleb. First, a pitch for supporting this website and our private sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. The person will describe the suspect based on those categories. Her grandfather, Mike Patty, said he did not personally know Allen but that he had "probably seen him. The previous sketch was a composite sketch and was "an artist's composite of the information" collected by all the agencies involved in the double-murder investigation, including the FBI, said Indiana State Police Sgt. Haven't heard of rumored nasa pics. "While sometimes it's been painful, I am grateful for you all.". Or maybe someone gave him a ride or a worker for the graveyard saw him. On Oct. 28, 2022, police confirmed Richard Allen was being held in connection to the killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Sources tell Call 6 Investigates that a set of footprints are what led volunteers to the area the bodies were found. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. In addition to the two search party members reports, we also have a statement from an LE source close to the investigation that dolls were scattered all over the crime scene, and both girls were posed and sexually violated. It is important to distinguish these points about the two sketches: The person depicted in the originally released sketch is not presently a person of interest in this investigation. LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- Court documents newly obtained by WDRB link a man in jail with social media accounts police are investigating in connection with the murders of two young girls in Delphi . The tip line number is 1-844-459-5786. . In addition, we talked to two other people who both told us they had inside sources. They told us that their inside sources (plural) had all told them that there was some sort of luring of the girls to the site on the day of the crime. So while this does not back up the catfish theory per se, it does seem that a lot of evidence is converging on the notion that the girls were lured to the bridge that day, including about five separate sources, albeit most of them being vague. Hence LE is refocusing onto the Young BG sketch, who looks like both the young man seen a the bridge that day and the catfish boy used to lure the girls. This quote, which was mentioned earlier, references a set of footprints leading up the the bodies when the bodies were found for the first time by volunteers. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. "We want to find out what will his case look like going forward. I do believe that the new developments in this case are pertinent and involve the early search on bicycle road in some way. After over five years, a man has been charged with murder in the deaths of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. on Monday, February 13, between 1 p.m. and 5 p.m. Law enforcement has said that the disposal sight was 0.5 miles from the end of the bridge and across the Deer Creek. likely won't be able to stop thinking about it. He stood there for a little bit, he looked around and didnt see anybody or anything so he thinks he started walking towards the High Bridge, he was just about to where it forks and he ran into an older gentleman that was coming from the High Bridge and he asks him Did you see a couple of girls there? and he said No, but there's a couple down underneath." - Becky Patty, Timestamp 22:47,Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/help-isp-identify-this-man-who-was-on-the-walking-trails-monday-near-delphi. "That's when I ended up going back to the police station so we could get them phone information so they could start pinging, Becky was already there, Anna was already there, and it was a long night of coming up with anything we could do with phones. "Why did we let them go out there? News sources have also never directly referenced witness sightings of the offender. I think much of it might be true. "When I'm asked to explain it, I say this case is like looking through a darkened window of a home: you can see what's going on in the living room but you have no idea what's happening in the kitchen or anywhere else inside the house," she said. I haven't been on in a awhile. But what we found out recently was he is apparently not the killer. In what is the finest coup for our group of ~230 paid members, a retired homicide detective from Washington DC joined our group as a paid member! Members of the Delphi community should reflect back on people they know in the community that look similar to the sketch released on April 22nd, especially if that person has changed their appearance since the murders occurred in February of 2017. "The started up towards the trailhead. In his remarks on Monday, Doug Carter gave special thanks to the media and podcasters specifically for the role they've played in helping to keep Libby and Abby's story alive in the wake of their tragic deaths. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have determined the main suspects in the case, have a good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like, and have recently figured out the motive. New York Times article You Are Hiding in Plain Sight, 14. Stepson X is Mrs. Xs child by a previous marriage and may have been adopted by Mr. X. "It's concerning that it's a local guy," Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said Monday at a press conference. Also, if he did cut her throat with one huge swing of a hatchet, it would have soaked BG in blood according to a search warrant from the FBI obtained. Delphi, Indiana- In the early days and months of the Delphi Murder investigation information was developed about suspect descriptions. WISH_TV8 writing: Leazenby wouldnt go into specifics about forensic evidence in the case, although he did say investigators had requested that DNA evidence be 'fast-tracked,'. A team discovered the bodies of the girls in a wooded area near the trail, about a half-mile upstream from the bridge, New York Times article You Are Hiding in Plain Sight, 12. They were chatting at a party recently, and the friend asked the investigator about the dolls rumor, specifically asking if there was one doll or more than one doll at the crime scene. Information from witnesses along the trail that leads to the investigation charged with murder in the early stages of.... 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